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149347430 over 1 year ago

OpenStreetMap now largely matches https://waterwaymap.org/#map=14.67/52.92294/-1.47443&len=10..inf&tiles=planet-waterway-water way/1256155771 way/1267369302

As well as Sadlergate Bridge way/27014613 the brook goes under Saint James’ Bridge node/11771064345 Saint Peter’s Bridge node/11771064351 and Tennant (Street) Bridge node/11773245451 https://her.derbyshire.gov.uk/Monument/MDR11504 none of which are visible from above ground today

Outflow of Markeaton Brook to the Derwent in the Riverside Gardens has been blocked off with the flow diverted to Mill Fleam way/29291874

Need further research to find the route near here way/179863424 to trace other underground flows note/4174133 and to further improve the alignment

148066918 over 1 year ago

OpenStreetMap now largely matches https://waterwaymap.org/#map=14.67/52.92294/-1.47443&len=10..inf&tiles=planet-waterway-water way/1256155771 way/1267369302

As well as Sadlergate Bridge way/27014613 the brook goes under Saint James’ Bridge node/11771064345 Saint Peter’s Bridge node/11771064351 and Tennant (Street) Bridge node/11773245451 https://her.derbyshire.gov.uk/Monument/MDR11504 none of which are visible from above ground today

Outflow of Markeaton Brook to the Derwent in the Riverside Gardens has been blocked off with the flow diverted to Mill Fleam way/29291874

Need further research to find the route near here way/179863424 to trace other underground flows note/4174133 and to further improve the alignment

148066918 over 1 year ago

Correct link to Sadlergate Bridge way/27014613 (accidently repeated the Ford Street one in the last comment)
Also added the Mill Fleam pumping station changeset/149302426 and a note note/4172607

148066918 over 1 year ago

There is an outflow on water into the river Derwent in the riverside gardens way/107391475 between these steps way/180321012 and way/180320982 route possibly from Albert Street under the council house car park way/962494720
The Wikipedia article mentions another outflow into the Mill Fleam way/29291874 near the Mill Fleam pumping station https://waterprojectsonline.com/case-studies/mill-fleam-ps-2023/
Only the entrance near Ford Street way/278713958 and the exits in the Riverside gardens and Mill Fleam obvious on the ground although the name "Sadlergate Bridge" clearly indicates that the brook flows under here way/278713958

148066918 over 1 year ago

Probably Bold Lane way/8102379
Sadlergate Bridge way/27014613
The Strand way/237163684
Victoria Street way/704523720
Albert Street way/8102480
The route added in February way/1256155771 is too far North and is much too visible on the standard OpenStreetMap when nothing can be seen on the ground

148066918 over 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markeaton_Brook suggests This culvert takes the brook beneath the centre of Derby, where it flows under the Strand, Victoria and Albert Street, to an unseen confluence of the Bramble brook. It crosses beneath the Morledge, before it finally re-emerges from the culvert into the Mill Fleam at the Cockpit island, and then runs alongside the Bass recreation ground, until it reaches the River Derwent.[3][4]
I've seen pictures of the culvert during road works https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/heated-debate-rages-over-idea-7416863 https://www.flickr.com/photos/comradethompski/albums/72157606912868417/

148066918 over 1 year ago

Markeaton Brook goes through the centre of Derby as a culvert.
Don't know the exact route but is certainly passes under Sadlergate Bridge way/27014613 and I think under Victoria Street way/5039159 before joining the river Derwent near here way/180320982 and way/180321012

116873886 almost 2 years ago

I've updated to shop=gift way/1026353404
They mainly sell greetings cards (birthdays, Christmas, anniversaries, bereavement, graduation.....) and also sell small gifts to go with the cards

147683048 almost 2 years ago

It was for the caterers inside way/720560954 Maaya where I inappropriately removed the fhrs:id values and a more gentle check to see if they exist would be better https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/?lat=51.37965&lon=-2.36126&zoom=19&layer=osm

147683048 almost 2 years ago

I'm not planning on doing any more edits in Bath and had planned to just take the suggestions https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/?lat=51.37958&lon=-2.37274&zoom=15&layer=suggest to nudge the FHRS matches over 90% but got carried away and violently updated a few mismatches when a local survey would be better. I'll leave alone now.

I always used to change to old_fhrs:id but stopped at the end of 2023 when I noticed changeset/144884624 https://maproulette.org/challenge/42576/task/205026172 tidying up after me and that many fast food outlets had multiple historical old_fhrs:id values and looked very untidy

I still leave old_fhrs:id values in Amber Valley where numbers are reused but elsewhere have stopped doing so

I'll leave Bath to you and the local community now. The new FHODOT tool is very helpful https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/?lat=51.37596&lon=-2.40702&zoom=13&layer=osm and a more gentle approach with local knowledge would always be better

145954065 almost 2 years ago

Castleward Phase 3 2023 - 2024

145958754 almost 2 years ago

Castleward Phase 3 2023 - 2024

145611995 almost 2 years ago

Accidentally dragged node/716777553 tried to move back

144884599 about 2 years ago

Recent updates by me to old_name

way/211047915/history consolidating old_name:2 old_name:3 etc. into old_name

way/59309823/history ensuring old_name includes many old names for vacant premises

144920829 about 2 years ago

World wide office = estate_agent (77205) is used more frequently than shop = estate_agent (4228) but that does not prove that it is correct, just more popular.

144920829 about 2 years ago

I (and most UK mappers) have always used shop=travel_agent 1860 rather than office = travel_agent 87 (some of the offices might be corporate headquarters)

Office seems to be more common for lawyer (2963 : 8), architect (532 : 2) and estate_agent (9351 : 924)

Most common values (shop or office) match the iD defaults but are not necessarily correct (I think office for lawyer and architect is correct and has overwhelming popularity)

In Derby all estate agents are currently mapped as offices, in Nottingham both values are in use with no obvious split high street vs business park

Probably needs a wider discussion than just this Wem changeset

145031355 about 2 years ago

changeset/145034889 confirmed that Specsavers audiology is a separate unit from specsavers optometry with Bhavi Beauty inbetween. Fixme removed.

144920829 about 2 years ago

I've always (six years) used office = estate_agent in Derby way/127068258 based mainly on the values defaulting from the iD editor; similar to office = lawyer or office = architect even if on the high street

I've not edited any estate agents outside of the Derby/Nottingham (and surrounding bits of Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire/East Staffordshire) area and am open to guidance or correction if another way of tagging becomes the standard (and if iD presets are updated)

144884624 about 2 years ago

No objection to deleting old_fhrs:id values (many will have been left by me over the last five years)

In the Amber Valley borough council area where they were allocated 3 character fhrs:id values there is a tendency to re-use old values (rather than jump to new 7 character ones) even if there is a complete change of use of a building; elsewhere new values are issued upon management/ownership change even if the name and use stays exactly the same

Where IDs get reactivated after a short closure then leaving the old_fhrs:id makes editing fractionally easier way/328274893 when they reopen but elsewhere where there are multiple ";" separated old values way/55082687 then this probably adds no value and your housekeeping and #maproulette task makes total sense.

144884599 about 2 years ago

You will probably find hundreds or even thousands of examples in the Nottingham/Derby area
Where somewhere is open under a new name (as Courtlands is) then I'm OK with the proposed housekeeping
Where somewhere is still vacant then the old_name is very useful and I would not tidy way/59309823 or way/130642604 as the old name shows on https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#22/52.92318/-1.47900 which does not look at history