FYI you converted a car park in this one. But I've fixed in changeset/136303683

Thank you. But FYI, you left the old opening hours, phone number and website on this POI.
I've fixed it in changeset/135257533

Confusingly, the country code for the UK is GB.

Do you have any info to suggest it is a shop=bag?

Thanks. But FYI, you've left the tags as:
old_name=Antler
shop=bag

This implies a shop is still here, the following say there is a vacant shop here: old_name=Antler
disused:shop=bag

NSUL suggests "TA22 9DJ" for this spot. Thanks, updated in changeset/132510406

Yep, looks good it me. Thanks

Seems so

Hey, thanks for fixing my note. If the bank is now vacant `disused:amenity=bank` is better than `was:amenity=bank` because it implies that there is a vacant store front. We can then prompt mappers to update it after a period of time (eg via StreetComplete) or for stats (eg in use shops vs closed shops).

If it's an area within a building, that's good, thank you. If it takes up the building, that's also fine.

But something like Nam Song shouldn't be on the building area. There is one building, apartments, and the ground floor is Nam Song, Amman Ice Cream & Dessert and Street Art Tattoos. Nam Song could be a point, or an area as long as it's separate from building. I do points, because it's easier but areas are better if you have time and know where the shops split.

Hey, please could you stop deleting shop nodes and moving the tags onto buildings.

Some of these buildings are flats or offices, with the shop only on the ground floor. They should be left as a point with level=0.

And laughably, the PO website contradicts the PO sign and Southern Coop website by saying "Please Note: Not all services are available outside of the dedicated Post Office operating hours. Please check with your local branch."

I'm losing the will to live on this one, I'm going to ignore opening hours on post offices until there is a clear answer. I'll still use PO data to add addresses, add/remove POs in OSM (OS OpenMap Local helps too), and ref:pol_id.

My local post office is is more complicated. It's one of the bigger ones, a real counter. PO website and pol data say Mo-Su 07:00-20:00. But the counter is signed "Main counter opening times Mo-Fr 08:30-17:30; Sa 08:30-14:30 if the main counter is not open, please use our serviced from the main retail point".

node/1309359635
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/branch-finder/1229354/shanklin
https://osm.mathmos.net/postoffice/branch/1835

Also, that's not the correct coop opening hours, printed on the door is "Mo-Su 07:00-22:00", I did think they permanently changed from 23:00 to 22:00 semi recently. The coop website says "Mo-Su 07:00-23:00", but the Southern Coop website says "Mo-Su 07:00-22:00 Post Office services are available throughout this store's opening hours."

https://www.coop.co.uk/store-finder/PO37-7AA/42-regent-street
https://stores.thesouthernco-operative.co.uk/isle-of-wight/shanklin/42-regent-street.html

So, I guess, is the opening times for the counter, or for the service?

This is a 2 and a half year old changeset... Considering I only really started mapping in 2019 I'm sure there are lots of bad edits from around this time. I would not have added "opening_hours:post_office" now adays. I tent to stay away from shop=* amenity=post_office combinations, unless "untangling" them.

The validation of POL branch data is interesting. I'm going to look at some ones close to me.

I was talking about this one, changeset/105877402. There are plenty more bad changset descriptions: #117490994, #113128712, #113128735, #113129191, #111990185, #111990163, #changeset/112839818.

But it's so not important, I don't know why we're even talking about it.

Note, check_date:opening_hours is now broken. It should presumably be check_date:opening_hours=2019-12-07, unless you've checked them more recently? Also the source is wrong, but that doesn't matter.

Thanks, Cj

Cheers Phil,

But I reject you labelling this a "mechanical edit". I looked at every POI in this changeset.

I reject you calling this edit unhelpful. I think it has undeniably improved post offices in this area, even if there were one or 2 mistakes. Mistakes happen when humans are involved.

I can't help you with "my local post office", but if I overrode recent surveyed opening hours it was a mistake. Sorry. I was only adding opening hours because the data is less that 2 months old, I thought I checked object history to make sure I wasn't overriding recent data, and added check_date:opening_hours for to help in the future.

I reject "The co-op has a scale thing that may be available if they have a member of staff who knows how to use it", while it's true the manager on shift also has to be fully PO trained. As long as you're nice and respectful they can do it all. That being said, I do believe with Post offices in shops, the PO node should be the counter times, and the shop should have the full times. Please point this node out to me or fix it yourself.

I don't believe you can criticise my changeset description, you have 20+ with just "https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/26015" or "Fix tagging", "(no comment)", "Yet another barber shop".

Please don't forget OSM is a do-ocracy. Edits are more valuable that potential edits. This changeset used a community approved dataset to improve OSM.

Cj

There are advantages to having the businesses on nodes, I'd prefer it if you didn't move them to buildings.

Hey, when you add disused:amenity or disused:shop, you also need to remove amenity or shop. I'll fix this.

Hey, I don't think Post Office Ltd operate this post office, it's a franchise to Central.